Chicken with Sour Crop again

Hello, I have a almost 4 year old ISA brown chicken.
On Friday, I noticed her crop was enlarged and when I massages it, some green sour liquid came out. I got her to vomit most of it, then I gave her Epsom salt in water, and coconut oil. By yesterday she seemed to be better, and even though I wanted to keep her isolated, she was put outside. I gave her some more coconut oil but not Epsom salt. This morning the sour crop has returned, however not as severely.
I am unsure whether to continue treatment with Epsom salt and Coconut oil, or whether to move on to other options. We don't have access to a large animal vet here, so we can't take her in to get diagnosed and get Nystatin or get any generic medicines without a diagnosis.

I would appreciate any responses! Thank you.

I’m more familiar with quail, so I don’t have much to add, but just some questions:
1) is she your only that is experiencing this issue?
2) eating and drinking normally? what food?
3) is it presenting like an infection?

I know quail like gritty stuff - sand and oyster shells. Does she have something stuck?

CountrifiedCoturnix said:

I’m more familiar with quail, so I don’t have much to add, but just some questions:
1) is she your only that is experiencing this issue?
2) eating and drinking normally? what food?
3) is it presenting like an infection?

I know quail like gritty stuff - sand and oyster shells. Does she have something stuck?

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1) Yes, she is. The other chicken is doing fine.
2) She's been eating and drinking normally, I'm trying to clear her from normal food until she's better, but she's had a good appetite for egg yolk and yogurt, which I've just fed her.
3) No other signs except some watery yellowish diarrhea and a pasty bottom, which seems to be cleared after an Epsom salt bath.
I think it might be a few pieces of stingy grass that might have gotten stuck, but I think I got most of it out when she vomited.

If she’s improving, I wouldn’t worry so much. Then again, I worry about my quail for no reason and have to continually remind myself to chill. However, if she isn’f getting any worse - as in, if her crop isn’t returning to how it did previously - I would let her continue to recover.

As with our bodies, theirs also need some recovery period… I think. Just my one cent.

ChickenZiy1207 said:

Hello, I have a almost 4 year old ISA brown chicken.
On Friday, I noticed her crop was enlarged and when I massages it, some green sour liquid came out. I got her to vomit most of it, then I gave her Epsom salt in water, and coconut oil. By yesterday she seemed to be better, and even though I wanted to keep her isolated, she was put outside. I gave her some more coconut oil but not Epsom salt. This morning the sour crop has returned, however not as severely.
I am unsure whether to continue treatment with Epsom salt and Coconut oil, or whether to move on to other options. We don't have access to a large animal vet here, so we can't take her in to get diagnosed and get Nystatin or get any generic medicines without a diagnosis.

I would appreciate any responses! Thank you.

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Check her crop first thing in the morning before she's had anything to eat or drink.
IF it's not empty, then begin treating her for Sour Crop.

Epsom Salt is used to flush the crop, could cause some loose stools too. Flushing can cause dehydration, so take care when doing this. Usually a flush is only given once.
If the crop is sour, then don't massage. Do give the coconut oil.
You can find Miconazole or Clotrimazole at stores like WalMart, these are commonly used to treat sour crop.
Do let her eat and drink, but cut out any harder to process foods like grass, greens, veggies, scratch, etc. Basically, her normal feed and something soft like some scrambled eggs. I'd keep her with the flock if she's not getting picked on. Isolation/separation is stressful, hens do much better with the flock.

4yr old Isa Brown - does she lay eggs? Any reproductive issues (soft shelled eggs, not laying, bloat or fluid in the abdomen, etc.)? Has she been dewormed?
Keep in mind that crop issues are most of the time a Symptom of an underlying condition, so she may have more going on.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/

Wyorp Rock said:

Check her crop first thing in the morning before she's had anything to eat or drink.
IF it's not empty, then begin treating her for Sour Crop.

Epsom Salt is used to flush the crop, could cause some loose stools too. Flushing can cause dehydration, so take care when doing this. Usually a flush is only given once.
If the crop is sour, then don't massage. Do give the coconut oil.
You can find Miconazole or Clotrimazole at stores like WalMart, these are commonly used to treat sour crop.
Do let her eat and drink, but cut out any harder to process foods like grass, greens, veggies, scratch, etc. Basically, her normal feed and something soft like some scrambled eggs. I'd keep her with the flock if she's not getting picked on. Isolation/separation is stressful, hens do much better with the flock.

4yr old Isa Brown - does she lay eggs? Any reproductive issues (soft shelled eggs, not laying, bloat or fluid in the abdomen, etc.)? Has she been dewormed?
Keep in mind that crop issues are most of the time a Symptom of an underlying condition, so she may have more going on.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/ar...w-to-know-which-one-youre-dealing-with.73607/

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Thank you so much for the advice!
She does lay from time to time, and we haven't had any issues with her egg laying health prior to this. She hasn't been dewormed (dewormers are also highly regulated) but I've been putting ACV in the water. There haven't been issues with worms before however. We also got some minconazole should we need it.

Thanks again!!

CountrifiedCoturnix said:

If she’s improving, I wouldn’t worry so much. Then again, I worry about my quail for no reason and have to continually remind myself to chill. However, if she isn’f getting any worse - as in, if her crop isn’t returning to how it did previously - I would let her continue to recover.

As with our bodies, theirs also need some recovery period… I think. Just my one cent.

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Thank you! Yesterday after I wrote this, I gave her some ACV with yogurt. Today I checked on her, and she has no balloony/sour crop, and had far more energy. I think she is making improvements.