Hands on hatching and help

Debbiek2

Chirping
Mar 18, 2022
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Hello all! Should I see movement in the egg on day 22 if it hasn’t hatched. It seems there is no movement. And half looks like it is dark where the chick is.
 

Mamawills

In the Brooder
Jun 3, 2020
25
13
36
Hi, is there anything I can do if no internal pip? I’m hatching call ducks and can movement but no internal pip. Day 29. Thank you!
 

Wellchick

Chirping
8 Years
Apr 22, 2014
15
11
89
Hello BYC, my kids and I are doing our first incubation of hatching eggs in the Nurture Right 360. We had 10/16 fertile farm eggs hatch into healthy chicks on day 21 yesterday (we picked eggs up on the farm, so weren't in the mail). Hatched chicks are in the brooder. What do people do with the remaining 6 unhatched eggs on day 22? No more pips appearing. Should I check them out to figure out why they didn't hatch so we can improve for next time?
 

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Greenwave

In the Brooder
May 28, 2022
1
0
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I use a Hova Bator 1588 and swear by it. I am getting ready to buy a second one because I have become addicted to hatching. I can no longer wait the 21 days it takes for my chicks to hatch before I start a new batch. Haha! I have a bator full right now of BCM and 4 Polish that I threw in to test for fertility (didn't want to waste a fertile egg by cracking it right now cuz my girls are laying only a few a week - too cold!LOL! who can blame them?!).

I too use a "dry"method during incubation - right around 30% and then increase to at least 75% for hatching. Once I did this my hatch rate went from the 30%s to the 90%s. I also help out when needed. I have had many hatches that no one needed help, and then others where 2 or 3 did. I am a Firefighter/Paramedic/RN by trade. One of the first things that I learned as a paramedic was that you can't kill a dead person... what does that mean? If they are already dead, you really can't hurt them. So you do everything that you can to help them. The only place you have to go from there is up. In my opinion, helping a doomed chick is the same thing. If they are not going to be able to hatch on their own and they are going to die anyway, then what's the harm in helping?! Yes I know, maybe the chick was not meant to hatch, maybe it will be a weak bird, maybe it has lots of issues and will have to be culled in the end. Maybe. But maybe not. Sometimes they just get tired. Sometimes they get turned around. When I use to work as an RN I worked labor and delivery. We did C-sections all of the time. Some were scheduled. Some were emergent. Guess what... some of those babies would never have survived a vaginal delivery. And after a C-section, some were fine and some had problems.

I guess what I am trying to say is that if they are going to die anyway, why not give them every opportunity. If they turn out to be a weak bird, don't breed them. If they turn out to be special needs and you are not willing/not able to care for them - cull them later, then they are no worse off than before. But what if, just what if they turned out to be a strong healthy bird? What if they turned out to be your bird with the best personality? What if God put us there with our knowledge at that very minute to help that bird for a reason.

I too do not fault those who take a hands off approach. But I like Amy agree that those of us that CHOOSE TO HELP need a place we can help each other and others that also choose to help!
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CAFinNY

Chirping
7 Years
Jul 26, 2014
15
1
89
With the help of this article, I saved one of the ducklings in my incubator. However it was partially shrinkwrapped & part of the shrinkwapping is stuck to the back of the chick. Currently, he's out of the shell, but should I try to get that sticky stuff off him?

Thanks
 

BelovedBirds

Crowing
Nov 8, 2021
1,895
3,207
321
England
With the help of this article, I saved one of the ducklings in my incubator. However it was partially shrinkwrapped & part of the shrinkwapping is stuck to the back of the chick. Currently, he's out of the shell, but should I try to get that sticky stuff off him?

Thanks
It's awesome you were able to save him!
Is it like a sticky goo, or piece of the membrane?
 

BelovedBirds

Crowing
Nov 8, 2021
1,895
3,207
321
England
Piece of the membrane. He seems to be doing well so far.
ok, so I would moisten the membrane using coconut oil, if it doesnt come off easily, try using a little warm water on a cloth and just gently try to work it off of him. Don't pull at it as their skin is very delicate. Be very gentle. And if it comes off and all is well, just make sure he is nice and dry before putting back in the brooder. If it isn't budging, keep applying coconut oil to it to prevent it drying to his skin.
I'm not sure what would work best in this situation, but let me check with @WVduckchick and hopefully she can correct me if I'm mistaken.
 

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