Integrating chicks before 12 weeks

K0k0shka

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I really appreciate these replies. Hearing that my space is too small for 6 chickens is a bit devastating. I have been researching this for the past 6 months (but apparently not enough). The coop is 18 sq feet (plus the two nests on the end) and I thought 3 sq ft per bird is perfect. The run is actually 19.5 ft long if you count under the coop and that comes to 68.25 sq ft which I also thought was perfect for 6 chickens.

I will start today with having them in the yard together while being supervised (we live on one acre). Will see how that goes and try not to intervene unless necessary. That will be hard!

I will definitely put places to hide in the run — possibly in the coop too? I also have read to let them in the coop alone with the big girls unable to get in for some time so they can get used to where food and water are. I’m glad for the suggestion of a roost on a different side. We can do that. Should the roost for the chicks be narrower than for the grown ones? I think theirs is 2.5 inches.

This is how we got our setup: My husband called someone we were referred to who builds chicken coops. He had one already made and he delivered it on Christmas Eve for my present, including 3 laying chickens - one RIR and two RIR production hens. We knew nothing about chickens at that time except that we wanted eggs. I was shocked at how much I grew to love my chickens! Since then I became obsessed in learning what I could and in searching for the right chicks to add — friendly and some who lay blue eggs. Before a trip in May we had him come out and add the run on the side.

Thanks for all of these tips. I got the babies at 2 1/2 weeks and sure don’t want anything to happen to them. It will be hard to leave them and go on a trip.

I am going to attach a pic of the inside of the coop taken by my ring video camera. My girls roost on the top by the camera. There is a roost on the other side nearer the nest that we can lower for the little ones. View attachment 3185826

It's a learning experience! But if you spend time on BYC, you'll notice the 4 sq.ft. inside and 10 sq.ft. outside is what's recommended, and that's the minimum if all the birds get along. Add any wrinkles to that - like integration - and you will need more. A lot of this is dependent on your breeds and personalities, too. Some get along great, and can survive on less space. Others get aggressive and you'll need extra space. It's hard to predict what situation you'll end up in, so it's always good to err on the side of more space, just in case. And if you plan to let them out of the run to free range, you still have to provide a run that's large enough for them to live in, because there will be times when you can't free range - for example while you are away, and don't want them eaten by wildlife.

Letting the chicks into the coop by themselves is a good idea. So they can get used to it. Be aware that when they first start sleeping in there, even if they are familiar with the coop, they won't know to go in there to sleep. You may need to teach them and put them through the pop door yourself, until they get the idea. They may also be afraid to go in there because of the older hens. So start doing that now, so they have enough time to learn before you go, if they are to sleep inside the coop when you're gone.

You don't need to make a smaller/narrower perch for them. They can use a wide one just fine, and they'll need a wide one when they grow up anyway, so there's no point in putting in a narrow one only to have to change it later.

Make sure you have at least 2 food/water stations that are very far away from each other, so the chicks can eat without being harassed by the hens.

There will always be *some* level of pecking and establishing of pecking order, but as long as there's no blood or injuries, they'll be fine.

Good luck!
 

Linnre

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Some people use the 3 square foot per chicken figure. Most of us here use these numbers:

For each adult, standard-sized hen you need:

  • 4 square feet in the coop (.37 square meters)
  • 10 square feet in the run (.93 square meters),
  • 1 linear foot of roost (.3 meters),
  • 1/4 of a nest box,
  • And 1 square foot (.09 square meters) of permanent, 24/7/365 ventilation, preferably located over the birds' heads when they're sitting on the roost.
6 hens
  • 24 square feet in the coop. 4'x6' is the only really practical build for this given the common dimensions of lumber. If you can't walk into it, put the access door in the middle of the long side to make sure you can reach all areas of the coop because a stubborn chicken WILL press itself into/lay an egg in the back corner where you can't reach.
  • 6 feet of roost
  • 60 square feet in the run. 6'x10' or 8'x8'.
  • 6 square feet of ventilation.
  • 2 nest boxes, to give the hens a choice
As this article explains, there really are no magic numbers. The chickens' behavior will tell you if what you've got is or isn't working: https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/how-much-room-do-chickens-need.66180/

If you find that it's not working, in re: health, behavior, or sanitation, the first thing to consider will be adding more space. :)
I appreciate your kind response. I am going to start today on some of the suggestions starting with just letting them roam the yard together. As far as later on, if it doesn’t work, The only option I see is to get rid of one. I really can’t expand the coop. I would hate to do that but one of my big girls, that I’m less attached to, started laying in March, laid for 6 weeks and stopped. So I know who it would be. 😞 Hopefully though, these will be okay together. My three new ones are: Black Australorp (who is the sweetest and smallest), Cream Legbar (also sweet) an Easter Egger who looks much like an Americana. She is the biggest of the little ones. My three big girls squeeze together at the end of a roosting bar each night.
 

Linnre

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It's a learning experience! But if you spend time on BYC, you'll notice the 4 sq.ft. inside and 10 sq.ft. outside is what's recommended, and that's the minimum if all the birds get along. Add any wrinkles to that - like integration - and you will need more. A lot of this is dependent on your breeds and personalities, too. Some get along great, and can survive on less space. Others get aggressive and you'll need extra space. It's hard to predict what situation you'll end up in, so it's always good to err on the side of more space, just in case. And if you plan to let them out of the run to free range, you still have to provide a run that's large enough for them to live in, because there will be times when you can't free range - for example while you are away, and don't want them eaten by wildlife.

Letting the chicks into the coop by themselves is a good idea. So they can get used to it. Be aware that when they first start sleeping in there, even if they are familiar with the coop, they won't know to go in there to sleep. You may need to teach them and put them through the pop door yourself, until they get the idea. They may also be afraid to go in there because of the older hens. So start doing that now, so they have enough time to learn before you go, if they are to sleep inside the coop when you're gone.

You don't need to make a smaller/narrower perch for them. They can use a wide one just fine, and they'll need a wide one when they grow up anyway, so there's no point in putting in a narrow one only to have to change it later.

Make sure you have at least 2 food/water stations that are very far away from each other, so the chicks can eat without being harassed by the hens.

There will always be *some* level of pecking and establishing of pecking order, but as long as there's no blood or injuries, they'll be fine.

Good luck!
Thank you for your response and ideas. Especially about extra waterer and feeder and size of roost bar. I did research quite a lot but not here on BYC. I’ve got some teaching to do! I’m pretty sure I’ll be back here with more questions! I’m anxious now (and nervous) to get started! 😊
 

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Thank you for your response and ideas. Especially about extra waterer and feeder and size of roost bar. I did research quite a lot but not here on BYC. I’ve got some teaching to do! I’m pretty sure I’ll be back here with more questions! I’m anxious now (and nervous) to get started! 😊
Don't hesitate to ask any questions! We love helping people here on BYC 😊
 

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Here's what I posted on your original post: The run being so narrow is a problem. You really need some clutter to break up the space but it's going to be difficult with the width - look for items with smaller footprints like kid size patio furniture or things that could lean against the fence, like a pallet. Do you ever let the older girls out in your yard? Might want to try letting the older ones out, and letting the chicks explore the run and coop unmolested, so they can familiarize themselves with it.

Others have echoed the thought about the space. You can certainly try integrating the chicks into this space and hope for the best, but be ready with a backup plan if things don't work out.
 

Linnre

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Here's what I posted on your original post: The run being so narrow is a problem. You really need some clutter to break up the space but it's going to be difficult with the width - look for items with smaller footprints like kid size patio furniture or things that could lean against the fence, like a pallet. Do you ever let the older girls out in your yard? Might want to try letting the older ones out, and letting the chicks explore the run and coop unmolested, so they can familiarize themselves with it.

Others have echoed the thought about the space. You can certainly try integrating the chicks into this space and hope for the best, but be ready with a backup plan if things don't work out.
I got confused and forgot I posted this elsewhere. Thanks for reposting here. This was my response on the other post: (Should I delete that one?)

Yes, the older ones free range most of the time in our yard and the past couple of weeks the babies have been in the playpen during the day so they do know each other. Today I had them all out together for about an hour. I was nervous but mostly the big girls ignored the little ones. There were a few skirmishes but nothing bad. The most intense was when all 6 were in the playpen together eating food that had spilled! The littles were fast and got out! Then tonight I let the littles out with the bigs put up in the coop. Just to roam without worry. Because I could tell they were not quite as comfortable as before the hour with the big girls. I am feeling hopeful. We are raising our 7 year old grandson and yes we do have small chairs I can turn over in the run. What a good idea! I’ll do a little more each day.

Thanks for all the good advice today!
 

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